1 00:00:00,570 --> 00:00:02,570 Oh my God. 2 00:00:02,570 --> 00:00:05,570 What I'm going to tell you is a bombshell. 3 00:00:05,570 --> 00:00:08,571 People are hardly seeing flying saucers anymore. 4 00:00:08,571 --> 00:00:10,571 You know what they see? 5 00:00:10,571 --> 00:00:12,571 We see this big black thing approaching. 6 00:00:12,571 --> 00:00:18,571 These are giants, silence, and some witnesses say incredibly fast. 7 00:00:18,571 --> 00:00:20,571 How would you estimate the speed? 8 00:00:20,571 --> 00:00:22,572 Oh boy. 9 00:00:22,572 --> 00:00:25,572 What I want to know is, what are these? 10 00:00:25,572 --> 00:00:28,572 What the hell is that? 11 00:00:28,572 --> 00:00:33,572 All the videos of these things have been taken at night, until now. 12 00:00:33,572 --> 00:00:37,573 We have some amazing rare footage of a giant triangle shot in daylight. 13 00:00:37,573 --> 00:00:38,573 Where are they? 14 00:00:38,573 --> 00:00:40,573 It's going behind the tree now. 15 00:00:40,573 --> 00:00:41,573 You didn't see it? 16 00:00:41,573 --> 00:00:44,573 So we analyze the video and guess what we find out? 17 00:00:44,573 --> 00:00:47,573 There's clearly something there. 18 00:00:47,573 --> 00:00:50,574 Evidence has been happening for thousands of years. 19 00:00:50,574 --> 00:00:52,574 A pattern. 20 00:00:52,574 --> 00:00:54,574 You know what this might all be about? 21 00:00:54,574 --> 00:00:55,574 Gold. 22 00:00:55,574 --> 00:00:57,574 The ufologist strikes gold. 23 00:00:57,574 --> 00:00:58,574 Oh. 24 00:00:58,574 --> 00:00:59,574 Retires early. 25 00:00:59,574 --> 00:01:02,575 These stories are great, but I need to see the evidence. 26 00:01:02,575 --> 00:01:04,575 It's the missing link. 27 00:01:25,576 --> 00:01:37,577 I really want to get to the big picture of flying triangles. 28 00:01:37,577 --> 00:01:39,577 I've seen the evidence with my own eyes. 29 00:01:39,577 --> 00:01:40,577 I've seen the video. 30 00:01:40,577 --> 00:01:42,578 I've heard the witnesses. 31 00:01:42,578 --> 00:01:44,578 They can't just be earthly. 32 00:01:44,578 --> 00:01:46,578 Where's the proof that these things are actually alien? 33 00:01:46,578 --> 00:01:48,578 So there's a new guy on the team. 34 00:01:48,578 --> 00:01:50,578 His name is Kevin Cook. 35 00:01:50,578 --> 00:01:52,578 He's a mechanical engineer. 36 00:01:52,578 --> 00:01:54,578 He's from Philly. 37 00:01:54,578 --> 00:01:56,579 Now, he doesn't always agree with me. 38 00:01:56,579 --> 00:01:57,579 It's true. 39 00:01:57,579 --> 00:01:59,579 I've got my work cut out for me. 40 00:01:59,579 --> 00:02:02,579 They could just very well be some sort of high-tech military aircraft 41 00:02:02,579 --> 00:02:03,579 that nobody's seen before. 42 00:02:03,579 --> 00:02:04,579 Sure. 43 00:02:04,579 --> 00:02:07,579 A high-tech military aircraft that can both hover, 44 00:02:07,579 --> 00:02:11,580 stay stationary, go invisible, and shoot off at what? 45 00:02:11,580 --> 00:02:13,580 Mach 5, Mach 8. 46 00:02:13,580 --> 00:02:14,580 Come on. 47 00:02:14,580 --> 00:02:16,580 You know, I like this guy. 48 00:02:16,580 --> 00:02:19,580 The similar type of thing happened before about 20 years ago 49 00:02:19,580 --> 00:02:22,580 when people were seeing flying triangles in the sky. 50 00:02:22,580 --> 00:02:24,581 And it was just a stealth bomber. 51 00:02:24,581 --> 00:02:26,581 The same thing could be happening again right now 52 00:02:26,581 --> 00:02:28,581 with a different experimental craft. 53 00:02:28,581 --> 00:02:30,581 It doesn't necessarily mean it's alien. 54 00:02:30,581 --> 00:02:34,581 Kevin's coming from that place where a lot of scientists and engineers come from. 55 00:02:34,581 --> 00:02:37,582 It's a place of nuts and bolts where they don't believe it unless 56 00:02:37,582 --> 00:02:39,582 they can actually see it. 57 00:02:39,582 --> 00:02:40,582 Well, you guys want evidence. 58 00:02:40,582 --> 00:02:41,582 That's what we're doing. 59 00:02:41,582 --> 00:02:44,582 We're going into a UFO hotspot that's famous for triangle UFOs. 60 00:02:44,582 --> 00:02:47,582 And I know it's true because I was actually there a couple years ago 61 00:02:47,582 --> 00:02:50,583 where I met with a sky watcher who actually videotaped one of these 62 00:02:50,583 --> 00:02:51,583 triangles while I was there. 63 00:02:51,583 --> 00:02:52,583 So you saw it? 64 00:02:52,583 --> 00:02:53,583 Yeah. 65 00:02:53,583 --> 00:02:55,583 Well, no, I didn't see the triangle, but I was with a guy 66 00:02:55,583 --> 00:02:57,583 who videotaped the triangle when it happened. 67 00:02:57,583 --> 00:02:59,583 So I know the phenomenon is real. 68 00:02:59,583 --> 00:03:00,583 This is going to be a challenge. 69 00:03:00,583 --> 00:03:03,584 There's not a lot of physical evidence that I can get my hands on here. 70 00:03:03,584 --> 00:03:07,584 I'm working mostly with these theories that Bill and Pat are throwing out. 71 00:03:07,584 --> 00:03:10,584 Somebody needs to make sure that they don't go over the edge 72 00:03:10,584 --> 00:03:12,584 and they stay grounded in reality. 73 00:03:12,584 --> 00:03:18,585 We will hear things that will convince even the most die-hard skeptics 74 00:03:18,585 --> 00:03:21,585 that flying triangles are real, 75 00:03:21,585 --> 00:03:24,585 that there's an alien connection that's unmistakable. 76 00:03:24,585 --> 00:03:29,585 And I suspect we may even discover why they're here. 77 00:03:29,585 --> 00:03:33,586 If we can show him what we know to be true, 78 00:03:33,586 --> 00:03:37,586 what the documents say, what the witnesses say, what the video says, 79 00:03:37,586 --> 00:03:39,586 if we can get him to see that for what it is, 80 00:03:39,586 --> 00:03:44,587 we may actually have a real scientific edge to our entire investigation. 81 00:03:49,587 --> 00:03:52,587 We are in the grips of an unusual phenomenon. 82 00:03:52,587 --> 00:03:57,587 All over the world, people have been seeing giant triangles. 83 00:03:57,587 --> 00:04:04,588 The most famous, Belgium, 1989, Phoenix, Arizona, 1997, 84 00:04:04,588 --> 00:04:11,589 Tinley Park, Illinois, 2004, all of them, at night. 85 00:04:11,589 --> 00:04:16,589 But now, new breaks in the investigation of these unexplained triangular craft, 86 00:04:17,589 --> 00:04:21,589 we've uncovered rare, never-before-seen daytime footage 87 00:04:21,589 --> 00:04:26,590 taken in an area of California known as Triangle Alley. 88 00:04:29,590 --> 00:04:33,590 There's three lights in triangular formation, very bright. 89 00:04:33,590 --> 00:04:36,590 They're massive. They're flying so slowly over us 90 00:04:36,590 --> 00:04:40,591 that if it were a conventional aircraft, they'd fall out of the sky. 91 00:04:46,591 --> 00:04:51,591 So we are going to talk to Mark and Jed, two sky watchers here in Sonora, California, 92 00:04:51,591 --> 00:04:58,592 who've had some incredible daytime and nighttime sightings of flying triangles. 93 00:05:00,592 --> 00:05:04,592 It was June 15, 2004, when I was here on that balcony right there with you, 94 00:05:04,592 --> 00:05:10,593 we were looking at the sky up there and you videotaped a real triangle during daylight hours. 95 00:05:10,593 --> 00:05:15,593 Oh my God. I've got three lights in a triangular formation. 96 00:05:15,593 --> 00:05:16,593 Are you sure? 97 00:05:16,593 --> 00:05:19,594 Yes, this is, this is, this is, oh my God. 98 00:05:20,594 --> 00:05:23,594 I was right there next to him and I was, you know, I was fumbling with my camera, 99 00:05:23,594 --> 00:05:26,594 but by the time I got everything up and running, this thing was gone. 100 00:05:26,594 --> 00:05:27,594 You missed it. 101 00:05:27,594 --> 00:05:31,594 I missed it, unfortunately, but Mark was there and I'm telling you guys this really happened. 102 00:05:31,594 --> 00:05:35,595 Pat's telling me he missed it, which makes me wonder if what he saw was even a UFO, 103 00:05:35,595 --> 00:05:37,595 or maybe it was just a plane. 104 00:05:38,595 --> 00:05:42,595 Now, this is Kevin's first investigation, so I understand that he's skeptical. 105 00:05:42,595 --> 00:05:46,596 You know, I'm a little nervous because this is the first time in our years of investigating UFOs 106 00:05:46,596 --> 00:05:49,596 that I was actually at a sighting. 107 00:05:50,596 --> 00:05:56,596 I'm personally invested in this and I'd be really embarrassed if this turns out to be nothing but a small airplane. 108 00:05:56,596 --> 00:06:01,597 And these lights, they were equidistant, it seemed like it was from a one solid figure. 109 00:06:01,597 --> 00:06:05,597 Yes, and they didn't vary as they moved across the sky. They stayed fixed. 110 00:06:05,597 --> 00:06:07,597 What the hell is that? 111 00:06:07,597 --> 00:06:08,597 Are you sure? 112 00:06:08,597 --> 00:06:12,597 It's behind those branches. You didn't see it? 113 00:06:12,597 --> 00:06:14,598 Oh my God. 114 00:06:16,598 --> 00:06:21,598 The lights did not move away from each other. They were equidistant. 115 00:06:21,598 --> 00:06:24,598 All I could think of is this is not of this world. 116 00:06:25,598 --> 00:06:27,599 These UFOs originated back behind this ridge. 117 00:06:27,599 --> 00:06:31,599 Are you aware of any Air Force bases? Maybe just an airport. 118 00:06:31,599 --> 00:06:33,599 Over on the other side of this ridge is Columbia Airport. 119 00:06:33,599 --> 00:06:36,599 It's a very small airport. They don't even have radar. 120 00:06:36,599 --> 00:06:38,599 What about military? 121 00:06:38,599 --> 00:06:42,600 The only military base is Castle over in Merced and it's closed. 122 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:50,600 People might be tempted to ask why is it that you both see so many UFOs? 123 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:55,601 I've watched for literally thousands of hours for a few minutes of footage. 124 00:06:55,601 --> 00:06:57,601 This was more than just a hobby. 125 00:06:57,601 --> 00:07:01,601 Oh, for a while there it became an obsession almost. Just wanting to know what they are. 126 00:07:01,601 --> 00:07:03,601 Sounds like it paid off. 127 00:07:03,601 --> 00:07:06,601 Sort of. Yeah, I still don't know what they are. 128 00:07:06,601 --> 00:07:10,602 We have daytime footage. That's just so incredibly rare. 129 00:07:10,602 --> 00:07:16,602 I hope it can be analyzed independently so we can see what these are. 130 00:07:16,602 --> 00:07:22,603 I know that Kevin doesn't buy this, but I was there and we captured something amazing. 131 00:07:24,603 --> 00:07:30,603 I know Pat thinks this is real, but I need something more than witness testimony and consumer grade video. 132 00:07:30,603 --> 00:07:33,603 We need to analyze this footage to see what it really is. 133 00:07:39,604 --> 00:07:43,604 The Mark Olsen video is really interesting, not just for what it is, 134 00:07:43,604 --> 00:07:48,605 but because it's so reminiscent of the video shot in Belgium in 1989. 135 00:07:48,605 --> 00:07:55,605 Both the Olsen video and the Belgium video were three lights in a triangular formation, 136 00:07:55,605 --> 00:07:59,605 but the Belgium video was even more compelling than the Olsen video 137 00:07:59,605 --> 00:08:06,606 because the Belgium video actually showed a physical object holding the three lights in place. 138 00:08:06,606 --> 00:08:08,606 A triangle. 139 00:08:09,606 --> 00:08:15,607 I believe that if Terrence Masson has a chance to analyze this Mark Olsen video, 140 00:08:15,607 --> 00:08:19,607 what he's going to see is an object holding the three lights together. 141 00:08:19,607 --> 00:08:22,607 That's our next stop, Terrence Masson's lab. 142 00:08:26,607 --> 00:08:30,608 Terrence Masson is an image analyst and he'll be using motion tracking software 143 00:08:30,608 --> 00:08:34,608 to isolate and stabilize the three lights in Mark Olsen's daytime footage. 144 00:08:34,608 --> 00:08:39,608 We're going to analyze Mark's video frame by frame to get some answers. 145 00:08:39,608 --> 00:08:43,609 So what I've done here first is cropped out the majority of the frames 146 00:08:43,609 --> 00:08:47,609 so we can concentrate on the object itself and stabilize it. 147 00:08:50,609 --> 00:08:53,609 You can tell definitively here these things are rock solid information. 148 00:08:53,609 --> 00:08:59,610 This is a good solid four and a half seconds and even the tightest precision acrobatic flying, 149 00:08:59,610 --> 00:09:03,610 you're going to see some kind of relative motion over that kind of time frame. 150 00:09:04,610 --> 00:09:09,611 Can we eliminate the obvious things? Is this but some type of helicopter? Is there any evidence of that? 151 00:09:09,611 --> 00:09:18,611 Well, without having 100% certainty, I can come up with a long list of things that make this not anything like conventional aircraft. 152 00:09:19,611 --> 00:09:25,612 Going away from the running footage now, we've got single still frames, isolated, 153 00:09:25,612 --> 00:09:29,612 and a run some image processing routine on this and look at what's coming. 154 00:09:29,612 --> 00:09:34,612 We see some clear indication of a structure behind in between those three lights. 155 00:09:37,613 --> 00:09:43,613 Whoa! And, black triangle? I mean, there's clearly something there. 156 00:09:49,613 --> 00:09:53,614 Is there any other explanation that the darkness around these lights is something other than a solid object? 157 00:09:53,614 --> 00:10:01,614 Many times we've seen in these consumer grade camcorders the exposure range for the pixels that capture this information are very, very limited 158 00:10:01,614 --> 00:10:08,615 and sometimes we do get blooming effects. So next to very bright lights it will tend to compensate and go very dark. 159 00:10:08,615 --> 00:10:12,615 That's not what we're seeing here. It's too consistent over too long of footage. 160 00:10:15,615 --> 00:10:17,616 What's your best guess? What are we looking at? 161 00:10:17,616 --> 00:10:24,616 My best guess would be we're looking at a single triangular shaped dark craft with three very large either propulsion or illuminating lights. 162 00:10:26,616 --> 00:10:30,616 That's not consistent with any man-made craft. 163 00:10:36,617 --> 00:10:44,618 We're heading up the Blyons balled mountain which is right in the heart of Triangle Alley and the ideal location to hopefully see what Mark Olsen filmed. 164 00:10:45,618 --> 00:10:50,618 This Triangle Alley actually extends for 350 miles around the Sierra Nevada mountains. 165 00:10:50,618 --> 00:10:55,618 From here in Sonora, California, heart of the Gold Rush country to further up north at Mount Shasta. 166 00:10:57,618 --> 00:11:02,619 I'll be honest with you. I'm really anxious to look in the sky for you, foes. 167 00:11:02,619 --> 00:11:06,619 But I'm more concerned about keeping my footing on these rocks. 168 00:11:07,619 --> 00:11:13,620 There's a lot of loose rock. It's steep. There's snow on the ground and we're carrying heavy packs full of gear. 169 00:11:13,620 --> 00:11:21,620 Now, Pat, he's the wilderness guy. Me, I'm more comfortable in the city so this is a bit more of an adventure than I anticipated. 170 00:11:22,620 --> 00:11:27,621 Well, if this spot is as hot as Mark says it is, there's a good chance we might actually see something. 171 00:11:28,621 --> 00:11:35,621 A lot of people say UFOs don't exist but they're the same people who never actually come out and watch the skies themselves. 172 00:11:35,621 --> 00:11:39,622 So we're going to take a crack at it and we're going to spend the night out here and see if we see something. 173 00:11:40,622 --> 00:11:42,622 What do you think about this spot right here? 174 00:11:42,622 --> 00:11:43,622 It's a good spot. 175 00:11:44,622 --> 00:11:48,622 Well, here's the ridge. That's the silver mine. 176 00:11:48,622 --> 00:11:51,622 We're going to see anything that's going to be from right here. 177 00:11:51,622 --> 00:11:53,623 I don't think you can get hotter than this place right here. 178 00:11:53,623 --> 00:11:56,623 So let's set up the camera and maybe you take the GPS readings. 179 00:12:01,623 --> 00:12:05,623 Right now Kevin's pounding in a marker that will take a GPS reading. 180 00:12:05,623 --> 00:12:12,624 So that in the future we can look back at our records and know exactly where we were should we see a triangle tonight. 181 00:12:13,624 --> 00:12:18,624 North, 38 degrees, 7 minutes, 50.2 seconds. 182 00:12:18,624 --> 00:12:23,625 West, 120 degrees, 5 minutes, 45.6 seconds. 183 00:12:23,625 --> 00:12:25,625 Great. Good thought of you. 184 00:12:26,625 --> 00:12:30,625 We're in the right place. This is where Witnesses report seeing a flying craft. 185 00:12:31,625 --> 00:12:33,626 Triangle alley, right here. 186 00:12:33,626 --> 00:12:40,626 If we do catch something on camera, it's done right. We have the right camera set up and we'll be able to analyze it very well. 187 00:12:40,626 --> 00:12:41,626 That is our goal. 188 00:12:45,626 --> 00:12:49,627 Do you see that light just above the ridge? It goes white then red. 189 00:12:49,627 --> 00:12:50,627 You're cute. 190 00:12:51,627 --> 00:12:52,627 Are we onto something? 191 00:12:53,627 --> 00:13:05,628 I was just looking at the stars and all of a sudden I see this shape. It's kind of like... 192 00:13:11,628 --> 00:13:17,629 We've been on top of the mountain in the middle of Triangle Alley and we've been watching this guy all night long. 193 00:13:17,629 --> 00:13:21,629 What we were hoping to find up here is actual proof of these flying triangles. 194 00:13:21,629 --> 00:13:24,629 Something we can see with our own eyes and capture on film. 195 00:13:25,629 --> 00:13:30,630 I honestly think that we should be focusing most of our attention along the horizon instead of up high. 196 00:13:31,630 --> 00:13:35,630 Most of the Witness reports having them coming from behind a ridge and then disappearing behind a ridge. 197 00:13:35,630 --> 00:13:38,630 Just over the course of seconds. 198 00:13:39,630 --> 00:13:42,631 If we see something moving, I think our eyes will be drawn to it automatically. 199 00:13:42,631 --> 00:13:43,631 I hope so. 200 00:13:43,631 --> 00:13:47,631 Stark out here and it's by far the coldest night I've ever spent looking for UFOs. 201 00:13:48,631 --> 00:13:51,631 One thing's for sure, your mind definitely plays tricks on you. 202 00:13:53,631 --> 00:13:56,632 Do you see that light just above the ridge? It goes white then red. 203 00:13:56,632 --> 00:13:57,632 Yeah, I see it. 204 00:13:58,632 --> 00:13:59,632 Are we onto something? 205 00:14:01,632 --> 00:14:06,632 So we found something in the sky and we don't know what it is. It's bright. It seems to be moving very slowly. 206 00:14:07,633 --> 00:14:08,633 Possibly it's a star. 207 00:14:09,633 --> 00:14:12,633 It looks like it might be moving. I'm not too sure. 208 00:14:13,633 --> 00:14:16,633 Well, it's right above the ridge. It seems to be flickering. 209 00:14:19,633 --> 00:14:21,634 I think it's a star that's coming up over the ridge. 210 00:14:22,634 --> 00:14:25,634 Well, I got something actually on my phone. 211 00:14:25,634 --> 00:14:28,634 A little application that has a star map on it. 212 00:14:28,634 --> 00:14:31,634 And it'll tell us what that little star is, if that is a star. 213 00:14:31,634 --> 00:14:32,634 I don't know what it is. 214 00:14:32,634 --> 00:14:35,635 So let me calibrate here. We're looking at Orion here. 215 00:14:35,635 --> 00:14:36,635 So let's bring it down here. 216 00:14:37,635 --> 00:14:40,635 And let's see what it says. 217 00:14:40,635 --> 00:14:44,635 According to this, that star could be Pollux. 218 00:14:47,635 --> 00:14:50,636 We've been out here most of the night and we've seen some things. 219 00:14:50,636 --> 00:14:54,636 But so far they've just been airplanes and satellites and stars. 220 00:14:54,636 --> 00:14:56,636 Our eyes are playing tricks on us. 221 00:14:56,636 --> 00:15:03,637 So I can totally see how people can get really excited on things they see in the sky that are just casually explained. 222 00:15:03,637 --> 00:15:14,637 Multiple triangular shaped objects have been reported in this general area. 223 00:15:14,637 --> 00:15:18,638 These objects were in view of multiple witnesses. 224 00:15:18,638 --> 00:15:22,638 What these things can do is just amazing. Just amazing. 225 00:15:25,638 --> 00:15:30,639 I'm going to meet with Ruben Uriarte, Rufan's Northern California State Director. 226 00:15:30,639 --> 00:15:38,639 He has been researching the history of UFOs in this area and has developed one of the most comprehensive databases available. 227 00:15:38,639 --> 00:15:42,640 We're going to get the really big picture of flying triangles. 228 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,640 What they are and who's flying them. 229 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,640 We've been getting so many reports of sightings. 230 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,640 An increased spike of triangles especially. 231 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,640 We consider it like an intersection to what we call Triangle Alley, 232 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:59,641 which is from Southern California all the way up to the Washington border. 233 00:15:59,641 --> 00:16:01,641 Nevada is right next door. 234 00:16:01,641 --> 00:16:05,641 We have Area 51 which is approximately 260 miles away. 235 00:16:05,641 --> 00:16:10,642 Tonopolis Air Force Base and other black budget base possibly 200 miles away. 236 00:16:10,642 --> 00:16:14,642 So the Nevada test site is only about 250 miles away. 237 00:16:14,642 --> 00:16:19,642 That's like the blink of an eye for some of the multiple marks supersonic aircraft we have. 238 00:16:20,642 --> 00:16:28,643 In Triangle Alley there have been over 60 reported sightings of Triangle UFOs only since the year 2000. 239 00:16:28,643 --> 00:16:33,643 This is a huge number of sightings for such a sparsely populated region. 240 00:16:33,643 --> 00:16:37,644 Imagine the number of sightings that have gone unreported. 241 00:16:37,644 --> 00:16:38,644 Here's a triangle. 242 00:16:38,644 --> 00:16:40,644 Now this is 1986 Bill. 243 00:16:40,644 --> 00:16:42,644 This is before they released the V2 bomber. 244 00:16:42,644 --> 00:16:44,644 Obviously the characteristics are a lot different. 245 00:16:44,644 --> 00:16:45,644 They're huge. 246 00:16:45,644 --> 00:16:49,644 This thing went right over a freeway four lanes in width. 247 00:16:49,644 --> 00:16:50,645 So where was this? 248 00:16:50,645 --> 00:16:53,645 This is further north up here in Cuneer, Corny. 249 00:16:54,645 --> 00:16:57,645 What's really interesting is this thing was just hovering. 250 00:16:57,645 --> 00:17:03,645 And the witnesses actually observe in detail as you can see over half an hour. 251 00:17:05,646 --> 00:17:11,646 This craft in Corny is similar to hundreds of other videos we've seen right here in Triangle Alley. 252 00:17:11,646 --> 00:17:13,646 It's three lights. 253 00:17:13,646 --> 00:17:18,647 Three lights that may look separate but they're in this rigid configuration with each other. 254 00:17:18,647 --> 00:17:22,647 They hover silently in the sky. 255 00:17:22,647 --> 00:17:25,647 Then they shoot off at tremendous speeds. 256 00:17:25,647 --> 00:17:30,647 We've got to find out what is the link among all these different craft. 257 00:17:32,648 --> 00:17:33,648 This reminds me of Phoenix. 258 00:17:33,648 --> 00:17:34,648 Yes. 259 00:17:34,648 --> 00:17:37,648 All the same characteristics that we keep hearing about. 260 00:17:37,648 --> 00:17:39,648 They're large or silent. 261 00:17:39,648 --> 00:17:41,648 They make no sound whatsoever. 262 00:17:41,648 --> 00:17:42,648 Lights around the perimeter. 263 00:17:42,648 --> 00:17:44,649 The lights illuminated the object. 264 00:17:44,649 --> 00:17:46,649 Major light in the center. 265 00:17:46,649 --> 00:17:47,649 Lit up as a bright as day. 266 00:17:47,649 --> 00:17:54,649 When you compare planes to this, when you compare helicopters to this, they look, they behave entirely differently. 267 00:17:55,649 --> 00:17:57,649 How long have these been going on? 268 00:17:57,649 --> 00:18:03,650 It goes back probably the Great Airship sighting, back in 1896, 1897. 269 00:18:03,650 --> 00:18:07,650 From San Francisco to Sacramento all the way to Stockton around the General vicinity. 270 00:18:07,650 --> 00:18:12,651 There were reports from miners that were working that seen strange objects, strange stars. 271 00:18:14,651 --> 00:18:20,651 The other thing that's unique about this area, Bill, is there's a large cavernous system that stretches throughout the state. 272 00:18:20,651 --> 00:18:25,652 Particularly right here in this area for several hundred miles up toward the Shasta area. 273 00:18:25,652 --> 00:18:27,652 This area is loaded with minerals. 274 00:18:27,652 --> 00:18:29,652 You know, it's gold country. 275 00:18:30,652 --> 00:18:34,652 When he said gold country, I stopped in my tracks. 276 00:18:34,652 --> 00:18:35,652 Gold? 277 00:18:35,652 --> 00:18:37,652 Could it be that simple? 278 00:18:37,652 --> 00:18:42,653 Whoever or whatever is flying these triangles could be interested in gold. 279 00:18:43,653 --> 00:18:49,653 We've been focusing a lot on extraterrestrial, but perhaps the other answer to this mystery is inner earth. 280 00:18:51,653 --> 00:18:53,654 Gold has very, very high conductivity. 281 00:18:53,654 --> 00:18:56,654 We use gold in circuits. 282 00:18:56,654 --> 00:19:06,655 So we should be looking down at the same time we're looking up, and if we find something there, they can actually possibly draw UFOs to it. 283 00:19:06,655 --> 00:19:09,655 I consider Sonora like the intersection. It's a beacon here. 284 00:19:10,655 --> 00:19:12,655 Here's what we know. 285 00:19:12,655 --> 00:19:16,655 It's not just Sonora, it's the entire Sierra Nevada range. 286 00:19:16,655 --> 00:19:19,656 It's not just flying triangles, it's all sorts of objects. 287 00:19:19,656 --> 00:19:22,656 It's not just now, it's a hundred years. 288 00:19:22,656 --> 00:19:30,656 Maybe it's the gold in these hills that's been attracting flying triangles for well over a hundred years. 289 00:19:35,657 --> 00:19:41,657 So my concern is that tomorrow's headlines will be ufologists trapped in mine after earthquake. 290 00:19:41,657 --> 00:19:43,657 I think that's possible. 291 00:19:43,657 --> 00:19:44,657 You got it all wrong. 292 00:19:44,657 --> 00:19:47,658 Headlines are going to be ufologists strikes gold. 293 00:19:47,658 --> 00:19:49,658 Retires early. 294 00:19:50,658 --> 00:19:56,658 We're on our way to an actual working gold mine here in the Motherload region of Northern California. 295 00:19:56,658 --> 00:20:00,659 This sits right in the path of where Mark Olson had his sighting. 296 00:20:01,659 --> 00:20:08,659 We'll be testing for high levels of radiation and magnetism, invisible energies that might attract UFOs to this region. 297 00:20:09,659 --> 00:20:13,660 Oh, okay. Looks like that's it right there. 298 00:20:13,660 --> 00:20:14,660 Sweet. 299 00:20:15,660 --> 00:20:20,660 We have a magnetometer and a Geiger counter and we're going to look for anything out of the ordinary. 300 00:20:21,660 --> 00:20:22,660 You think we'll find anything? 301 00:20:23,660 --> 00:20:26,660 I actually do expect to get some readings, at least for the magnetometer. 302 00:20:27,661 --> 00:20:30,661 Should get, pick up some magnetic fields from iron. 303 00:20:30,661 --> 00:20:34,661 To tell you the truth, I'm excited that this is a gold mine. 304 00:20:34,661 --> 00:20:40,662 I'm very excited. However, my entire life, I've been purposefully trying to stay out of small places like caves and whatnot. 305 00:20:40,662 --> 00:20:41,662 So I am a little bit nervous. 306 00:20:42,662 --> 00:20:43,662 Ready? 307 00:20:44,662 --> 00:20:45,662 It's a little bit smaller than I expected. 308 00:20:46,662 --> 00:20:50,662 But as long as I stay focused on the task at hand, everything's going to be fine. 309 00:20:50,662 --> 00:20:51,662 Oh man. 310 00:20:52,662 --> 00:20:54,663 Why am I thinking about bats? 311 00:20:59,663 --> 00:21:03,663 I'm here meeting with my good friend fellow publisher, Georgios Sucalus. 312 00:21:03,663 --> 00:21:04,663 I've got this thing. 313 00:21:04,663 --> 00:21:09,664 There's something in flying triangles that goes all the way back to ancient times. 314 00:21:10,664 --> 00:21:16,664 I've actually got something that might make your triangle mystery a bit less mysterious. 315 00:21:17,664 --> 00:21:26,665 This artifact, like here, was actually found in Columbia and it's pre-Columbian and about a dozen of these have been found. 316 00:21:26,665 --> 00:21:32,665 And to the untrained eye, this looks like a fighter jet. 317 00:21:32,665 --> 00:21:41,666 Mainstream archaeologists and mainstream science basically says that this is nothing but a stylized insect or a stylized bird. 318 00:21:41,666 --> 00:21:50,667 From a biological perspective, wings on a bird are exactly where we have our arms. 319 00:21:50,667 --> 00:21:52,667 They're attached to the shoulder girdle. 320 00:21:52,667 --> 00:21:57,667 In this example right here, the wings are not attached to the shoulder girdle. 321 00:21:57,667 --> 00:22:01,667 So biologically speaking, this is not a bird. 322 00:22:03,668 --> 00:22:09,668 The one thing that is extremely interesting here is the upright tail fin. 323 00:22:09,668 --> 00:22:13,668 Birds do not have upright tail fins. 324 00:22:13,668 --> 00:22:16,669 Their tail fins are horizontal. 325 00:22:18,669 --> 00:22:19,669 This is incredible. 326 00:22:19,669 --> 00:22:29,670 Giorgio is actually showing me representational artwork of triangular shapes that the ancients used as talismans. 327 00:22:29,670 --> 00:22:39,670 How would a Colombian culture from 1500 years ago even understand aerodynamically what a tail fin does, right? 328 00:22:39,670 --> 00:22:45,671 Unless they saw something, but they couldn't explain it entirely. 329 00:22:45,671 --> 00:22:53,671 And so not only did they put a whole bunch of stuff in writing, but they also recreated stuff that they said, you know, 330 00:22:53,671 --> 00:23:02,672 our airs should be able to look at these things so that we don't forget what has happened during their time. 331 00:23:04,672 --> 00:23:05,672 Can you say it? 332 00:23:05,672 --> 00:23:13,673 It's the missing link between the ancients' vision of flying triangles in the sky 333 00:23:13,673 --> 00:23:19,673 and our vision of what flying triangles can be and what we've actually reversed engineered for our own aircraft. 334 00:23:19,673 --> 00:23:28,674 Either people from another world came here with those or even more stunning, somebody was time traveling. 335 00:23:31,674 --> 00:23:37,675 It's been a long time that I've had doubts about whether there were UFOs or aliens visiting us from outer space. 336 00:23:38,675 --> 00:23:47,675 Right over the roof, I saw three red lights in a very small triangle and it was coming pretty fast and the triangle was getting bigger. 337 00:23:47,675 --> 00:23:54,676 And what I saw, I don't think that anyone on this planet has the technology right now to be able to do that. 338 00:24:01,676 --> 00:24:03,676 This is the mother load. 339 00:24:03,676 --> 00:24:07,677 In the last 20, 30 years, I've probably investigated 400 sightings. 340 00:24:07,677 --> 00:24:10,677 I'm just trying to figure out why they're here. 341 00:24:11,677 --> 00:24:13,677 It's a little bit more narrow than I expected. 342 00:24:13,677 --> 00:24:15,677 Yeah, pretty low too. 343 00:24:17,678 --> 00:24:25,678 We're in California Gold Country to investigate the theory that aliens are mining our gold to use as an electrical conductor to power their craft. 344 00:24:25,678 --> 00:24:33,679 If it's true, we should find high levels of radiation and magnetism, trace evidence which has been found at the scene of several UFO landings. 345 00:24:35,679 --> 00:24:37,679 Alright, let's go. 346 00:24:38,679 --> 00:24:45,680 We're traveling down this mine and I have to admit I'm a little bit nervous. It's dark, it's narrow and I'm willing to bet that there are bats in here. 347 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:52,680 This looks like the end of the mine right here. This is as far as it goes. This will be perfect. 348 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:58,681 Let's start with a Geiger counter and then work with the magnetometer. Look for anything unusual. 349 00:24:58,681 --> 00:25:07,681 A Geiger counter measures the number of radioactive samples detected per minute and standard atmospheric radiation levels are about 15 counts per minute. 350 00:25:07,681 --> 00:25:13,682 Now, ufologists claim that abnormally high levels of radiation are a residual effect of UFO contact. 351 00:25:13,682 --> 00:25:18,682 Now, if there are high levels of radiation in there, I think it's safe to say we're not going to be hanging out for very long. 352 00:25:19,682 --> 00:25:21,682 Are you getting something? 353 00:25:21,682 --> 00:25:28,683 Everything seems normal. Not much deviation from normal atmospheric radiation. 354 00:25:30,683 --> 00:25:36,683 Now, in the mine, we detected nothing abnormal, nothing that was any different from standard atmospheric radiation levels. 355 00:25:36,683 --> 00:25:42,684 So next, we're going to try using a magnetometer which measures the changes in a magnetic field in the mine. 356 00:25:42,684 --> 00:25:48,684 And it's reported that UFOs are actually attracted to high levels of magnetism. 357 00:25:49,684 --> 00:25:53,685 I'm getting anything from zero to five milligausson in the magnetometer. 358 00:25:53,685 --> 00:25:56,685 Is it just jumping around or is it consistent in one place? 359 00:25:56,685 --> 00:25:58,685 It's jumping around. 360 00:25:58,685 --> 00:26:01,685 Just like the Geiger counter, the magnetometer readings were all normal. 361 00:26:01,685 --> 00:26:03,685 This gold mine is dry. 362 00:26:03,685 --> 00:26:10,686 Just because gold is one of the best conductors of electricity, that's not proof that aliens are coming here to get it. 363 00:26:10,686 --> 00:26:20,687 There's a number of experts have hypothesized that there is a connection between heavy mineral deposits, particularly gold and UFO activity. 364 00:26:20,687 --> 00:26:22,687 It's just a theory. 365 00:26:22,687 --> 00:26:25,687 You're smiling at me like I'm insane. 366 00:26:25,687 --> 00:26:27,687 What do you think? Am I nuts? 367 00:26:27,687 --> 00:26:35,688 That's suggesting that UFOs are actually hovering above the mountains and somehow extracting the resources they need from the mountains themselves. 368 00:26:35,688 --> 00:26:37,688 That just sounds like Star Trek to me. 369 00:26:37,688 --> 00:26:47,689 I'd much rather focus on the Geiger counter and the magnetometer and looking for any unusual readings than thinking about Pat's unusual theory. 370 00:26:47,689 --> 00:26:55,689 If there are beings from another planet and they wanted resources, I can see it being sensical that they would actually come here and just take hours. 371 00:26:55,689 --> 00:26:57,689 They don't even have to fight us. Still, it's just a theory. 372 00:26:57,689 --> 00:27:02,690 Exactly, but one that's worthy of investigation, don't you think? 373 00:27:02,690 --> 00:27:03,690 That's why we're here. 374 00:27:03,690 --> 00:27:09,690 That's what's exciting about this investigation. You get a lot of leads, some will take you to a dead end and some take you into a gold mine. 375 00:27:13,690 --> 00:27:22,691 While you guys were out in the field, I was meeting with George O. Tsukalis who showed me a replica of an artifact of a flying triangle. 376 00:27:22,691 --> 00:27:27,692 These carvings were found in caves that were found throughout South America. 377 00:27:27,692 --> 00:27:31,692 And this is basically what, a thousand years old, fifteen hundred years old. 378 00:27:31,692 --> 00:27:37,692 Legend has it that these types of craft were flown by ancient astronauts. 379 00:27:37,692 --> 00:27:45,693 We don't know where they came from, we don't know who they are, we don't know if they're from the future, they're from another planet. We just don't know. 380 00:27:45,693 --> 00:27:56,694 You're telling me that fifteen hundred years ago, there were aircraft in the sky flying around and people were making models of them and drawing them, making little trinkets just like this? 381 00:27:56,694 --> 00:28:08,695 Indigenous peoples on planet Earth were visited by ancient astronauts flying craft just like this, triangular shaped craft, visiting planet Earth and seeding the culture with information. 382 00:28:08,695 --> 00:28:12,695 A possibility? It could also be a time ship. 383 00:28:14,695 --> 00:28:19,695 Bill says that these ancient astronauts are actually time ships from the future. 384 00:28:19,695 --> 00:28:27,696 Come on, time traveling just doesn't exist, at least not today. This is just science fiction. 385 00:28:27,696 --> 00:28:39,697 Flying triangles from the future, from our future, going back in time, they see them, they're seeding the past and they did something, maybe something religious, maybe something cultish, we don't know. 386 00:28:39,697 --> 00:28:45,697 Time traveling, we're talking about time traveling here. Some sort of vehicle traveling from the future into the past. 387 00:28:46,697 --> 00:28:51,698 That's it? Is there any kind of proof behind this or is it simply a theory? 388 00:28:51,698 --> 00:29:03,699 I'm telling you that twenty years ago, an army officer traveled into the future. We have that totally documented. Is there proof that these ships are coming back from the future? No. 389 00:29:04,699 --> 00:29:16,700 I have to say this is why I love Bill. He doesn't hold back. A hundred years ago, people laughed at the idea that we would be able to fly in airplanes. People laughed at Charles Darwin for proposing the theory of evolution. 390 00:29:16,700 --> 00:29:22,700 So, you know, when Bill Burns proposes the theory of time travel, I don't think I can laugh it off. 391 00:29:22,700 --> 00:29:29,701 Regardless what inspired the design of this trinket, it is a triangle and it does look like it might be aerodynamic. 392 00:29:29,701 --> 00:29:39,701 I propose that we make a model identical to this right here, out of styrofoam or something like that. Just throw it in the air, like a glider. See if it flies. 393 00:29:39,701 --> 00:29:41,701 You got it. Sounds good. 394 00:29:48,702 --> 00:29:54,702 It's been a long time that I've had doubts about whether there were UFOs or aliens visiting us from outer space. 395 00:29:54,702 --> 00:30:01,703 From what I saw, I don't think that anyone on this planet has the technology right now to be able to do that. 396 00:30:04,703 --> 00:30:13,704 We are now in Houston, Texas, about to meet with a pilot with over forty years of experience. He saw a triangle in the sky that he still can't explain. 397 00:30:14,704 --> 00:30:16,704 And what exactly is your background in flying? 398 00:30:17,704 --> 00:30:25,705 Well, I have forty years of flying, both military and commercially. I've flown probably twenty-five or thirty different airplanes. 399 00:30:25,705 --> 00:30:37,706 Pilots make excellent witnesses. These are professionals that are trained to observe the sky. When a pilot sees something and he doesn't know what it is flying through the sky, we have to give it special consideration. 400 00:30:37,706 --> 00:30:47,706 It was the eighteenth of May, 1996, and it was about one twenty. I caught something out of my eye and I just looked off to the left like that. 401 00:30:47,706 --> 00:30:56,707 And right over the roof, I saw three red lights in a very small triangle, and it was coming pretty fast and the triangle was getting bigger. 402 00:30:58,707 --> 00:31:06,708 It was almost like it might have been climbing a little bit because it didn't follow the curvature of the Earth. It just disappeared into infinity. 403 00:31:08,708 --> 00:31:11,708 How would you estimate the speed? 404 00:31:11,708 --> 00:31:24,709 Oh boy. I've seen the Sputnik and watched it for quite a while. I know the SR-71 and believe me, even a 71 couldn't go as fast as that. 405 00:31:24,709 --> 00:31:36,710 Mike Desick has seen the SR-71 in person. This is the fastest airplane ever built. It goes up to speeds of Mach 3 plus that's two thousand four hundred miles per hour. 406 00:31:36,710 --> 00:31:40,710 And what Mike Desick saw in the sky was much faster than that. 407 00:31:40,710 --> 00:31:49,711 It's really hard for me to imagine that this experienced pilot with more than thirty years in the cockpit would not be able to identify the SR-71. 408 00:31:49,711 --> 00:31:54,711 Did you have any special training in identifying foreign aircraft or enemy aircraft? 409 00:31:54,711 --> 00:32:04,712 Oh yeah, that was part of your training. You had these black silhouettes that flashed them up on the screen and you would just say P-51, F-15. 410 00:32:04,712 --> 00:32:06,712 You didn't want to be shooting down your own airplanes. 411 00:32:06,712 --> 00:32:09,712 What you saw that night was not one of the silhouettes you saw in your training. 412 00:32:09,712 --> 00:32:13,713 Oh absolutely not. No way. 413 00:32:13,713 --> 00:32:18,713 It's very exciting talking to Mike because he's a trained expert in identifying foreign enemy aircraft. 414 00:32:19,713 --> 00:32:22,713 And when he says he doesn't know what's flying up there, I have to believe him. 415 00:32:22,713 --> 00:32:26,714 This was a genuine unidentified triangle and he says it's not ours. 416 00:32:26,714 --> 00:32:28,714 Well what would you say it was today? 417 00:32:28,714 --> 00:32:34,714 For the first time in my life I really think that I saw something very unusual. 418 00:32:34,714 --> 00:32:43,715 I might not have believed before that there were aliens visiting with us but now I believe there are. 419 00:32:44,715 --> 00:32:52,716 I honestly don't know what's going on. Before hearing this testimony I was leaning towards these flying triangles being military aircraft. 420 00:32:52,716 --> 00:32:54,716 But now I don't know what to think. 421 00:33:03,716 --> 00:33:09,717 Since our investigation into Triangle UFOs we've received hundreds of emails from people who have seen these craft. 422 00:33:09,717 --> 00:33:16,717 Among them was Gordon Scott who witnessed a huge black triangle flying along the creek bed behind his home. 423 00:33:16,717 --> 00:33:24,718 He was reluctant to appear before the cameras but he's reached a comfort level with us and is now agreeing to come forward and speak about what he saw. 424 00:33:24,718 --> 00:33:29,718 When we first saw this thing going down the creek we were scared to death. We were getting ready to call 911. 425 00:33:31,718 --> 00:33:35,719 This took place in 2001, August 15th at about 8.30pm. 426 00:33:35,719 --> 00:33:39,719 They run out into our backyard and we see this big black thing approaching. 427 00:33:39,719 --> 00:33:44,719 The bright red light on the bottom lit up the whole creek probably 100 feet across. 428 00:33:44,719 --> 00:33:47,720 And I assumed it was an aircraft ditching. 429 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,720 I could have hit it with a softball underhanded. 430 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:51,720 That's how close you were? 431 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:52,720 That's how close. 432 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:53,720 What kind of noise did you hear? 433 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:54,720 Nothing. 434 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:55,720 Did you feel any heat? 435 00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:56,720 Did you feel any breeze? 436 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:57,720 No. 437 00:33:57,720 --> 00:33:58,720 Did you smell anything? 438 00:33:58,720 --> 00:33:59,720 No. 439 00:34:00,721 --> 00:34:04,721 He was so close to this giant triangle yet he heard nothing. 440 00:34:04,721 --> 00:34:05,721 He smelled nothing. 441 00:34:05,721 --> 00:34:06,721 He felt nothing. 442 00:34:06,721 --> 00:34:08,721 Not a breeze and not a hum. 443 00:34:08,721 --> 00:34:09,721 Nothing at all. 444 00:34:09,721 --> 00:34:11,721 I find it kind of suspect. 445 00:34:11,721 --> 00:34:14,722 He was so close and this was such a large object. 446 00:34:14,722 --> 00:34:16,722 Then where did it go? 447 00:34:16,722 --> 00:34:19,722 Followed the creek, stated the lowest point possible. 448 00:34:19,722 --> 00:34:25,722 Went right over here to the base of the bridge and it just went vertical like this. 449 00:34:25,722 --> 00:34:31,723 Over the bridge about 15 feet above it, maybe 20, then it dropped right back down in the creek. 450 00:34:31,723 --> 00:34:35,723 It's moving horizontally and it's moving vertically. 451 00:34:35,723 --> 00:34:39,723 As far as I know, we don't have any technology today that can do that. 452 00:34:39,723 --> 00:34:42,724 But to tell you the truth, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that we do. 453 00:34:42,724 --> 00:34:45,724 Within about five minutes we had an F-16. 454 00:34:45,724 --> 00:34:47,724 It was flying very slow, gear up. 455 00:34:47,724 --> 00:34:48,724 It was fully armed. 456 00:34:48,724 --> 00:34:50,724 It had two sidewinders on the wings. 457 00:34:50,724 --> 00:34:53,724 It had two more missiles underneath. 458 00:34:53,724 --> 00:34:58,725 Minutes after sighting this strange flying triangle, Gordon saw an F-16 459 00:34:58,725 --> 00:35:02,725 which tells me that there's some kind of military involvement with his craft. 460 00:35:02,725 --> 00:35:06,725 Either the government knows what these triangles are and is involved with them 461 00:35:06,725 --> 00:35:11,726 or these flying triangles are completely out of our control and do not belong to our government 462 00:35:11,726 --> 00:35:13,726 and we are monitoring their activity. 463 00:35:13,726 --> 00:35:16,726 It wasn't chasing the black triangle. 464 00:35:16,726 --> 00:35:18,726 I believe it to be an escort. 465 00:35:18,726 --> 00:35:21,727 It was flying with it. 466 00:35:21,727 --> 00:35:24,727 Now we got NASA just down the road. It's not that far from here. 467 00:35:24,727 --> 00:35:26,727 Is NASA in the direction where the thing was heading? 468 00:35:26,727 --> 00:35:29,727 Yes. It came from the north. It was headed to the south. 469 00:35:29,727 --> 00:35:36,728 Thirty miles east of Gordon Scott's house is Johnson Space Center, home to NASA. 470 00:35:36,728 --> 00:35:42,728 What does it mean that an F-16 is following this giant triangle towards NASA? 471 00:35:45,728 --> 00:35:50,729 So guys, what do you think about some of these cases that we've been hearing? 472 00:35:50,729 --> 00:35:52,729 I would say both of them are baffling. 473 00:35:52,729 --> 00:35:55,729 Gordon Scott to me obviously seems like a military aircraft. 474 00:35:55,729 --> 00:36:00,729 Just flying low, F-16 guiding it. There's a lot of things that point to that. 475 00:36:00,729 --> 00:36:06,730 What if it's some kind of cooperative hybrid craft that we're developing with E-teams? 476 00:36:06,730 --> 00:36:09,730 Actually working with extraterrestrials to build these flying triangles. 477 00:36:09,730 --> 00:36:14,730 Actually working with extraterrestrial technology, not with extraterrestrials on board 478 00:36:14,730 --> 00:36:18,731 but with their technology, kind of Area 51 reverse engineering. 479 00:36:18,731 --> 00:36:20,731 What if we've been doing that for years? 480 00:36:20,731 --> 00:36:26,731 Well Bill has a theory that aliens and humans are collaborating on creating this reverse engineered technology. 481 00:36:26,731 --> 00:36:30,732 I think we have to be careful about how far we want to go with these theories 482 00:36:30,732 --> 00:36:33,732 that aliens are working with us secretly. 483 00:36:33,732 --> 00:36:37,732 Until I can find some kind of definite proof, I'm afraid Bill is alone on this one. 484 00:36:37,732 --> 00:36:41,732 I mean we're just trying to figure out if these are military or extraterrestrial. 485 00:36:41,732 --> 00:36:46,733 I think that going all the way to hybrid already is kind of jumping the gun a little bit. 486 00:36:46,733 --> 00:36:50,733 Don't you think? Why? It's been going on since World War II. 487 00:36:50,733 --> 00:36:52,733 I need some of the whole non-to. Where is the evidence? 488 00:36:52,733 --> 00:36:55,733 I mean it's great in theory. It could be. It could be the case. 489 00:36:55,733 --> 00:36:59,734 These could all be extraterrestrial but I don't have the proof that I need to prove that 490 00:36:59,734 --> 00:37:01,734 other than their weird flight characteristics. 491 00:37:01,734 --> 00:37:03,734 I just think we have to keep our speculation in check. 492 00:37:03,734 --> 00:37:07,734 I mean we really don't have proof that there are alien craft that we are reverse engineering. 493 00:37:07,734 --> 00:37:11,735 The proof is what Gordon Scott saw. He saw something that, 494 00:37:11,735 --> 00:37:14,735 given your description of what people have been talking about, 495 00:37:14,735 --> 00:37:16,735 behaved like nothing we've ever developed. 496 00:37:16,735 --> 00:37:17,735 What do you need? 497 00:37:17,735 --> 00:37:22,735 It's not so far out that it is conceivable that we could actually have these kinds of craft. 498 00:37:22,735 --> 00:37:25,736 I wouldn't be surprised to find out we do have this technology, 499 00:37:25,736 --> 00:37:27,736 the type of thing that Gordon Scott saw today. 500 00:37:31,736 --> 00:37:32,736 Let's go see Brick. 501 00:37:32,736 --> 00:37:42,737 We're about to meet with Special Effects Artist and Co-Odinator Brick Price. 502 00:37:42,737 --> 00:37:47,737 Brick has modeled the relic that Georgia gave us the other day. 503 00:37:47,737 --> 00:37:52,738 And we're going to find out, is that object really flying? 504 00:37:55,738 --> 00:37:59,738 We're wondering, will this fly? Can this fly? 505 00:37:59,738 --> 00:38:03,738 Given the shapes, I would say so, definitely. There's no question in my mind. 506 00:38:03,738 --> 00:38:06,739 Just from looking at this, you're already convinced that this is some sort of aircraft, 507 00:38:06,739 --> 00:38:08,739 it's aerodynamic, and it's going to fly. 508 00:38:08,739 --> 00:38:14,739 There's too many things about the shape that I think represent flight in our time. 509 00:38:14,739 --> 00:38:18,740 Well, it looks like you changed your model from the original a little bit. 510 00:38:18,740 --> 00:38:22,740 It looks like it's streamlined. Did you make any changes to the angle of attack on the wing 511 00:38:22,740 --> 00:38:25,740 or the distance, the height, the weight, the center of gravity? 512 00:38:25,740 --> 00:38:26,740 What kind of changes did you make? 513 00:38:26,740 --> 00:38:27,740 None. 514 00:38:27,740 --> 00:38:28,740 None? 515 00:38:28,740 --> 00:38:29,740 No. 516 00:38:29,740 --> 00:38:32,741 Talking to Brick, I fully expected that he was going to say, 517 00:38:32,741 --> 00:38:36,741 we needed to make some changes to this model in order to get it to fly properly. 518 00:38:36,741 --> 00:38:39,741 We needed to change the angle of the wing. We needed to change the distance here, 519 00:38:39,741 --> 00:38:41,741 the distance there, the center of gravity. 520 00:38:41,741 --> 00:38:44,741 But he didn't. He didn't need to change anything. 521 00:38:44,741 --> 00:38:47,742 This thing apparently flies on its own. I can't wait to see it. 522 00:38:47,742 --> 00:38:54,742 One thing that's interesting about it is that the wing swept area has taken up a lot by the body, 523 00:38:54,742 --> 00:38:57,742 but the body has a shape to it like a lifting body, 524 00:38:57,742 --> 00:39:03,743 which means that the body itself actually acts as a lifting surface. 525 00:39:03,743 --> 00:39:06,743 The structure of the body is actually a lifting body. 526 00:39:06,743 --> 00:39:09,743 It's comparable to the angle of an aircraft wing, 527 00:39:09,743 --> 00:39:14,744 which means while it's in flight, it's actually creating lift to lift the entire object. 528 00:39:14,744 --> 00:39:19,744 What this means is that this artifact seems to be designed and optimized as a glider 529 00:39:19,744 --> 00:39:22,744 so it can go through the air with minimal propulsion. 530 00:39:23,744 --> 00:39:26,745 As aerodynamic as it is, and maybe it flies as well as you're saying, 531 00:39:26,745 --> 00:39:28,745 it's just too perfect. 532 00:39:28,745 --> 00:39:30,745 That's what makes me a believer. 533 00:39:30,745 --> 00:39:33,745 If the model actually flies... 534 00:39:33,745 --> 00:39:35,745 Alright, launch away. Let's see this thing fly. 535 00:39:35,745 --> 00:39:39,746 It's possible that they had knowledge of extraterrestrial craft. 536 00:39:45,746 --> 00:39:50,746 The object, triangular shape, we saw windows along one side of it, 537 00:39:50,746 --> 00:39:54,747 and it just glided by. No sound, absolutely no sound. 538 00:39:55,747 --> 00:40:00,747 We were at the lab of Special Effects Supervisor Brick Price in Los Angeles, California, 539 00:40:00,747 --> 00:40:04,747 who has made an exact scale model of Georgios artifact. 540 00:40:04,747 --> 00:40:08,748 If this model flies, we can have our final piece of proof 541 00:40:08,748 --> 00:40:12,748 that alien visitation has been going on for thousands of years. 542 00:40:14,748 --> 00:40:16,748 Alright, launch away. Let's see this thing fly. 543 00:40:16,748 --> 00:40:17,748 Okay. 544 00:40:18,748 --> 00:40:22,749 If the model actually flies, then we really have to reconsider 545 00:40:22,749 --> 00:40:26,749 what we believe about ancient civilizations and what they knew. 546 00:40:26,749 --> 00:40:31,749 And it's possible that they had knowledge of aerodynamics, of flying machines, 547 00:40:31,749 --> 00:40:35,750 and maybe, you know, maybe extraterrestrial craft. 548 00:40:38,750 --> 00:40:40,750 Oh, look at that! 549 00:40:40,750 --> 00:40:42,750 That's fantastic! 550 00:40:42,750 --> 00:40:43,750 That flew. 551 00:40:43,750 --> 00:40:45,750 It's starting to lift. It's starting to lift. That's good. 552 00:40:45,750 --> 00:40:48,751 That flew a lot better than I wanted it to. 553 00:40:48,751 --> 00:40:51,751 I'm sorry, Kevin. 554 00:40:51,751 --> 00:40:56,751 Wow, this model flew and did a lot better than I ever expected, 555 00:40:56,751 --> 00:40:58,751 and I kind of have a conflict. 556 00:40:58,751 --> 00:41:01,752 I wasn't sure that this was actually modeled after a real aircraft. 557 00:41:02,752 --> 00:41:04,752 Now, I don't know what to think. 558 00:41:07,752 --> 00:41:10,752 The relics fly. Not only does it fly, 559 00:41:10,752 --> 00:41:14,753 the inherent aerodynamic qualities of this are so intense 560 00:41:14,753 --> 00:41:17,753 that it stalls, writes itself, and settles down. 561 00:41:17,753 --> 00:41:21,753 We're looking at proof of ancient flying triangles. 562 00:41:22,753 --> 00:41:25,753 This design is made to form that angle of attack 563 00:41:25,753 --> 00:41:27,754 just like the way the space shuttle comes down to Earth's landing. 564 00:41:27,754 --> 00:41:28,754 Exactly right. 565 00:41:28,754 --> 00:41:30,754 I also think it's interesting that it didn't die at all. 566 00:41:30,754 --> 00:41:32,754 No, it didn't die or it didn't lift. 567 00:41:32,754 --> 00:41:35,754 It didn't go up in the air and come back down on its tail. 568 00:41:35,754 --> 00:41:39,754 When we saw this thing in flight, its tail dropped, 569 00:41:39,754 --> 00:41:42,755 its nose went up, and it settled down to gather the lift. 570 00:41:42,755 --> 00:41:45,755 Quite frankly, this mimics the space shuttle's design. 571 00:41:45,755 --> 00:41:49,755 But you ask yourself, how could the indigenous peoples 572 00:41:49,755 --> 00:41:53,755 living in Columbia 1500 years ago have conceived of a device like this, 573 00:41:53,755 --> 00:41:55,756 a gliding device? 574 00:41:55,756 --> 00:41:58,756 There's one answer, which is implausible, 575 00:41:58,756 --> 00:42:02,756 but more plausible than anything else, time travel. 576 00:42:03,756 --> 00:42:06,756 You've got to be impressed of the aerodynamics of this design. 577 00:42:06,756 --> 00:42:07,756 No, I can't deny it. 578 00:42:07,756 --> 00:42:12,757 And if that is the exact replica of what Georgiou gave us the other day, 579 00:42:12,757 --> 00:42:15,757 that tells you a lot about what they saw. 580 00:42:15,757 --> 00:42:16,757 Something from outer space? 581 00:42:16,757 --> 00:42:17,757 Possible. 582 00:42:17,757 --> 00:42:20,757 There's nothing that points to that in my opinion. 583 00:42:20,757 --> 00:42:22,758 I'm leaning towards these ancient artifacts, 584 00:42:22,758 --> 00:42:26,758 these little trinkets, are modeled after some sort of highly advanced 585 00:42:26,758 --> 00:42:28,758 aerodynamic toy. 586 00:42:28,758 --> 00:42:30,758 And that's all this is. 587 00:42:31,758 --> 00:42:33,758 What's with Kevin Cook? 588 00:42:33,758 --> 00:42:35,759 I mean, he's watching this thing fly, 589 00:42:35,759 --> 00:42:37,759 and even as it's landing perfectly, 590 00:42:37,759 --> 00:42:40,759 he's doubting the significance of what we've shown. 591 00:42:40,759 --> 00:42:41,759 What does he say? 592 00:42:41,759 --> 00:42:43,759 Doesn't show anything. 593 00:42:43,759 --> 00:42:45,759 Doesn't show there were ancient astronauts. 594 00:42:45,759 --> 00:42:48,759 Doesn't show flying triangles were flying over South America 2,000 years ago. 595 00:42:48,759 --> 00:42:50,760 Doesn't show anything. 596 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:51,760 Hello. 597 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,760 I wish Bill would take time to think about what this test actually proves. 598 00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,760 It has nothing to do with airships in the sky, 599 00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:01,760 from the future, from another planet. 600 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:03,761 All it says is that there was an understanding, 601 00:43:03,761 --> 00:43:05,761 way back when, of aerodynamics. 602 00:43:05,761 --> 00:43:08,761 And that's special enough in itself. 603 00:43:11,761 --> 00:43:13,761 Well, I'll tell you what this means to me. 604 00:43:13,761 --> 00:43:15,761 It means that somehow long ago, 605 00:43:15,761 --> 00:43:19,762 some ancient peoples came up with a design that's perfectly aerodynamic. 606 00:43:19,762 --> 00:43:22,762 How they came up with that idea, I really can't say. 607 00:43:22,762 --> 00:43:24,762 There's no way we can conclude that. 608 00:43:24,762 --> 00:43:26,762 But it opens up possibilities. 609 00:43:26,762 --> 00:43:30,763 Were those people seeing the same triangular craft that we're seeing today? 610 00:43:30,763 --> 00:43:32,763 Well, now we have to be open to that possibility. 611 00:43:38,763 --> 00:43:40,763 So here's what we found out. 612 00:43:40,763 --> 00:43:43,764 People all over the world are seeing these giant triangles. 613 00:43:44,764 --> 00:43:48,764 Pilots tell us they're capable of speeds and maneuvers 614 00:43:48,764 --> 00:43:50,764 more advanced than anything else here. 615 00:43:51,764 --> 00:43:55,764 And we have proved that ancient peoples may have seen something similar. 616 00:43:56,765 --> 00:43:59,765 This is one huge piece of the puzzle. 617 00:43:59,765 --> 00:44:01,765 But there's more. 618 00:44:03,765 --> 00:44:06,765 We've just got this amazing footage of triangles 619 00:44:07,765 --> 00:44:11,766 shot less than 100 miles from where we were in Triangle Alley.